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	<title>Comments on: Moseley Barcamp continues&#8230;</title>
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	<description>(the one in Birmingham UK)</description>
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		<title>By: Moseley Barcamp Roundup &#171; Moseley Barcamp</title>
		<link>http://joshuahart.co.uk/2009/06/29/moseley-barcamp-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Moseley Barcamp Roundup &#171; Moseley Barcamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jon Bounds</title>
		<link>http://joshuahart.co.uk/2009/06/29/moseley-barcamp-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Bounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with you Josh, my thoughts are more perhaps that the lack of &quot;web scene&quot; we keep hearing about is more about a lack of &quot;web development/design scene&quot; - something I&#039;d like not to be true but something not as directly related to my work as people seem to be thinking.

I&#039;d really say that s/m stuff is done with web tech rather than because of it - so while it&#039;s really useful for me to know as much as possible about web stuff it&#039;s not a prerequisite. I like to dabble, so I have much more cross over than some s/m who are more users rather than creators of tech.

Can&#039;t agree with this tho: &quot;Web developers are not interested in reading discussing the Big City Plan.&quot; - I mean surely web developers can be interested in discussion about their environment (or anything else that interests them - including web dev) with social media tools. What they are within their rights to do, if they wish, is only take a partial interest in the social theory and user path and community theories of use of s/m tools - their work may be better if they do, but they don&#039;t have to in the way that not all s/m people can code a jot.

The overlap is where the cool edge-case stuff happens, but it&#039;s the result of two disciplines clashing rather than merging (they&#039;ll probably get further apart yet)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with you Josh, my thoughts are more perhaps that the lack of &#8220;web scene&#8221; we keep hearing about is more about a lack of &#8220;web development/design scene&#8221; &#8211; something I&#8217;d like not to be true but something not as directly related to my work as people seem to be thinking.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d really say that s/m stuff is done with web tech rather than because of it &#8211; so while it&#8217;s really useful for me to know as much as possible about web stuff it&#8217;s not a prerequisite. I like to dabble, so I have much more cross over than some s/m who are more users rather than creators of tech.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t agree with this tho: &#8220;Web developers are not interested in reading discussing the Big City Plan.&#8221; &#8211; I mean surely web developers can be interested in discussion about their environment (or anything else that interests them &#8211; including web dev) with social media tools. What they are within their rights to do, if they wish, is only take a partial interest in the social theory and user path and community theories of use of s/m tools &#8211; their work may be better if they do, but they don&#8217;t have to in the way that not all s/m people can code a jot.</p>
<p>The overlap is where the cool edge-case stuff happens, but it&#8217;s the result of two disciplines clashing rather than merging (they&#8217;ll probably get further apart yet)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Higgs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Higgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very much agree.

I can see the difference between these two industries, but like you point out, there is most certainly a benefit to be garnered from co-operation and understanding.

Hopefully the connection will strengthen in the coming years and this will be one of the things that enhances our community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much agree.</p>
<p>I can see the difference between these two industries, but like you point out, there is most certainly a benefit to be garnered from co-operation and understanding.</p>
<p>Hopefully the connection will strengthen in the coming years and this will be one of the things that enhances our community.</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by parboo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by parboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Twitted by joshhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by joshhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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